tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post113444676683992536..comments2024-01-23T11:00:45.457-08:00Comments on Rastî: Mizgînhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01850990661771197094noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-1134689815003787572005-12-15T15:36:00.000-08:002005-12-15T15:36:00.000-08:00HAHA! =D Yes, SIR! That I agree with one hundred %...HAHA! =D Yes, SIR! That I agree with one hundred %!!!<BR/><BR/><BR/>I don't doubt the vital role of the armed struggle - if it hadn't been for it - there would be no cultural struggle either...Dara Sorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15756040875352940837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-1134624683401216852005-12-14T21:31:00.000-08:002005-12-14T21:31:00.000-08:00Dara, I think the Kurds SHOULD use all available p...Dara, I think the Kurds SHOULD use all available political space in Turkey to complement the armed struggle. I'm sorry I misunderstood you, I DO think they can use a lot of legal political activity to leverage more political space.<BR/><BR/>This was done VERY nicely by Yeltsin, Sakharov, and others in the last 3-4 years of the USSR. I think that is a much better model than Gandhi for the Kurds in Turkey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-1134623965265753182005-12-14T21:19:00.000-08:002005-12-14T21:19:00.000-08:00Agreed. Armed struggle is always the right of the...Agreed. Armed struggle is always the right of the people, but it must be used in a subordinate role to the political struggle. Basically, this has been the action of PKK for some time. The ERNK was always larger and carried more authority than ARGK.<BR/><BR/>The enemies of Kurdistan are those who always moan about the violence of Kurds but they moan about the violence against Kurds far less.<BR/><BR/>Juanita, I think that slowly the Turkish intellectuals are seeing the light. We shall see what happens and let us begin to watch starting this Friday, which is when Orhan Pamuk's trial is supposed to begin.Mizgînhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01850990661771197094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-1134595890829685542005-12-14T13:31:00.000-08:002005-12-14T13:31:00.000-08:00Very interesting... I've heard that from somewhere...Very interesting... I've heard that from somewhere before... :P<BR/>HAHA!<BR/><BR/>Uh - I just have one point to make: Having a non-violent movement - ON THE SIDE - will give Kurds of Bakûr(North)MUCH more credibility - and even help uncredit the undeserved brand we have as "terrorists" - so if a group can work behind the scenes and cooperate with the PKK - invisible strings, naturally - a lot more can be achived! I am sure the Kurds of Bakûr would also like to see that things are going FORWARD - not backward... <BR/><BR/>But I agree 100% with what you said - I just believe that, what I just described - would be the best way to give the Bakurî's moral support...Dara Sorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15756040875352940837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-1134536324028561402005-12-13T20:58:00.000-08:002005-12-13T20:58:00.000-08:00Dara, there can be no question of Ghandi-style pas...Dara, there can be no question of Ghandi-style passive resistance...too mch blood has been shed, the Turks wd LOVE for the Kurds to renounce violent resistance!<BR/><BR/>I think the Kurds' best bet is to add liberated West K-stan (little Baath is staggering now) to "Iraq"...build up forces...liberate East K-stan, the US will surely provide air cover--then there will be a strong correlation of forces to "persuade" the Turks to surrender or (more likely) offer a relatively "good deal" The Kurds cd accept it FOR THE MEANTIME, a few years later they will be in a STRONGER position to enforce full independence.<BR/><BR/>My $0.02!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-1134491211960912752005-12-13T08:26:00.000-08:002005-12-13T08:26:00.000-08:00Well... Juanita has a point there!I think Turkey, ...Well... Juanita has a point there!<BR/><BR/>I think Turkey, needs to see an new revolution from the Kurds before it decides to act. What Kurds need is also exactly that - a revolution. When I read your blog, Mizgîn, I came to think about Mahatma Gandi - how disobedience can solve the issues by shedding light on the dark corners and revealing the un-democratic and grim sides of "Turkey, model of Democracy for the Middle East"... <BR/><BR/>We need a movement, non-violent - to have sit-ins and enact other sorts of activism... <BR/><BR/>To sit and wait for Erdogan or the Genel Kurmay to do something - is out of the question... We all know they'd like to deny the existence of a Kurdish question as much as they enjoy denying the Armenian Genocide!Dara Sorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15756040875352940837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-1134453351474860722005-12-12T21:55:00.000-08:002005-12-12T21:55:00.000-08:00Mizgîn wrote:"Indeed, PKK and Ocalan are the resul...Mizgîn wrote:<BR/><I>"Indeed, PKK and Ocalan are the results and the realities and there is no way to erase them from the political life of North Kurdistan. Their influence will be there for a very long time to come. Mention is made of the Armenian conference this past summer, and the recognition of what happened to the Armenians is closely tied, I believe, to the present Kurdish situation. If Turkey can come to terms with the genocide of the Armenians at the beginning of the last century, it is on its way to coming to terms with the present Kurdish situation at the beginning of this century."</I><BR/><BR/>I tell you if some of the Turkish posters at various forums on the 'net are any indication... it will be a very cold day in hell indeed. <BR/><BR/>Still, there are two options, IMHO. The modern world will drag up the rest of the world which is centuries behind to some level of secular modernity.... or the modern world will be dragged down and run through the streets as a trophy of war....<BR/><BR/>here's hoping!Nobody's Favoritehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16550487056833278607noreply@blogger.com