tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post113582880676828583..comments2024-01-23T11:00:45.457-08:00Comments on Rastî: Mizgînhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01850990661771197094noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-1136020739889023712005-12-31T01:18:00.000-08:002005-12-31T01:18:00.000-08:00You know, Vladimir, one of the first thoughts I ha...You know, Vladimir, one of the first thoughts I had about this article and its various, creative titles, was: "How much did the Turks pay to get this published?"<BR/><BR/>I can assure you, that if civil war breaks out and Başûr is threatened, there will be more than pêşmerge fighting. I was told repeatedly that if anyone invaded Başûr, everyone would fight, and I have no doubts about that at all.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the DissidentVoice article. Turkey and Iran have been cooperating with each other, especially in regard to Kurds, so I think that Turkey is going to use the US as regards a possible Iran attack only to try to get rid of PKK. If they can come out of this scenario with a slight regional advantage over Iran, it will be the icing on the cake.<BR/><BR/>Most of the information there is well known, but the guy loses me at the mention of Seymour Hersh.Mizgînhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01850990661771197094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-1135940389050267842005-12-30T02:59:00.000-08:002005-12-30T02:59:00.000-08:00And btw.. the report about Kirkuk is used again by...And btw.. the report about Kirkuk is used again by Turkish Daily news: http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr<BR/><BR/>Turks liked this news.Wladimir van Wilgenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14385344748812614455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-1135940282961636102005-12-30T02:58:00.000-08:002005-12-30T02:58:00.000-08:00Anyway something interesting for you: http://www.d...Anyway something interesting for you: http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Dec05/Leupp1229.htmWladimir van Wilgenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14385344748812614455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-1135940108920597722005-12-30T02:55:00.000-08:002005-12-30T02:55:00.000-08:00It's in Dutch. http://azady.nl/readarticle.php?art...It's in Dutch. http://azady.nl/readarticle.php?article_id=138<BR/><BR/>I think it's kinda logical if civil war breaks out, the peshmerga's will fight for Kurdistan and not for Iraq.<BR/><BR/>But at the moment the Kurdish leadership is working FOR Iraq. But the peshmerga's will always stay loyal to Kurdistan. Americans think Kurds are proud Iraqi's. While they have never felt themselves Iraqi's, but Kurds.<BR/><BR/>There was no assimilation programme in South-Kurdistan. Kurds have never become Arabs!Wladimir van Wilgenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14385344748812614455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-1135917945421598242005-12-29T20:45:00.000-08:002005-12-29T20:45:00.000-08:00Juanita, good point! The whole thing is context, ...Juanita, good point! The whole thing is context, and I think the context of this particular article was missing. . . in fact, a lot of context was missing. However, if the article is read closely and the spin discarded, one can see that the Kurdish leadership is planning their strategy for what to do if Iraq doesn't work. <BR/><BR/>If you were a Kurd in an Arab military unit, would you be willing to fight your Arab comrades-at-arms in order to get to a place where you could defend your homeland?<BR/><BR/>Some of my friends and I have discussed this possibility and what should be done. It only made sense to us to play the game for the benefit of Kurdistan, but to be prepared, with plans in place, in case the worst happens. I am happy to see that the Kurdish leadership is at least as smart as we are. In that case, they are sure to go far. . . :PMizgînhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01850990661771197094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-1135917542906242422005-12-29T20:39:00.000-08:002005-12-29T20:39:00.000-08:00bhfrik, I left comments on your page.Vladimir, you...bhfrik, I left comments on your page.<BR/><BR/>Vladimir, you little Kurd propagandist. . . where did you post your edition of the article? I see that KM.com has a number of articles on this, and the related subject of Kerkuk. I also noticed that even more bloggers were carrying this article today. Honestly, I don't know what these people think, but they certainly appear ready to sacrifice more Kurds for their Iraq.Mizgînhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01850990661771197094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-1135916344767890602005-12-29T20:19:00.000-08:002005-12-29T20:19:00.000-08:00Propaganda is very simple. All that you have to do...<I>Propaganda is very simple. All that you have to do is set the spin in the title and in the first couple of paragraphs. Then it will continue through the entire article because the spin, the feel, the tone of the article is set.</I><BR/><BR/>Exactly. For example:<BR/><BR/>"I beat my wife" said Rumsfeld, "at tennis last week" =<BR/><BR/><B>RUMSFELD ADMITS TO BEATING WIFE.</B><BR/><BR/>In a newsconference in Washington DC, Wednesday, Rumsfeld was asked if he ever beat his wife.<BR/>"Sure," he said, laughing. He acknowledged beating his wife just last week. Rumsfeld has been hounded by questions about just this sort of thing for weeks, ever since it came out that he beat his son .....<BR/><BR/>whateverNobody's Favoritehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16550487056833278607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-1135859994712338682005-12-29T04:39:00.000-08:002005-12-29T04:39:00.000-08:00Actually I edited the article myself. And made it ...Actually I edited the article myself. And made it into a propaganda version for Kurds:D.<BR/><BR/>Nice writing Rasti.Wladimir van Wilgenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14385344748812614455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-1135849298620056042005-12-29T01:41:00.000-08:002005-12-29T01:41:00.000-08:00Hey Mizgin... I responded to your post on my blog ...Hey Mizgin... I responded to your post on my blog and am interested in a dialogue with you on the matter. We can continue it there or here, or you can tell me to bugger off and I'll leave you alone. But I am very interested in your perspective and really do appreciate the post you left there. Please check the response and let me know if you want to continue the conversation, and if so where. Thanks.bhfrikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10261648934732735275noreply@blogger.com