tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post4138687129735017412..comments2024-01-23T11:00:45.457-08:00Comments on Rastî: A CLEAR-EYED VIEW OF PKKMizgînhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01850990661771197094noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-43239959527402077112007-10-26T03:37:00.000-07:002007-10-26T03:37:00.000-07:00MIZGÎNThanks for your detailed and thoughtful repl...MIZGÎN<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your detailed and thoughtful reply, there is a lot for me to analyze, I will get back to you.<BR/><BR/>Take care.<BR/><BR/>MickOrganized Rage.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07627288401631451362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-39805885170752852652007-10-25T23:26:00.000-07:002007-10-25T23:26:00.000-07:00Mizgin, did you hear any news in Belgium? I hear t...Mizgin, did you hear any news in Belgium? I hear the government is pretty upset with the Turks living there and has even gone as far as to contact their embassy. Any news?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-76398504092065070512007-10-25T20:06:00.000-07:002007-10-25T20:06:00.000-07:00Anonymous, I saw the Jenkins article a couple of d...Anonymous, I saw the Jenkins article a couple of days ago at Jamestown.<BR/><BR/>What's interesting is that Jenkins gives the impression that PKK just recently changed tactics, which is not true. Information on tactical changes came out in <A HREF="http://rastibini.blogspot.com/2006/08/4gw-and-kurdish-cause.html" REL="nofollow">2005</A>. Jenkins talks about an "urban bombing" campaign carried out by PKK. Not true. That campaign was carried out by TAK and PKK condemned each operation after it was carried out. PKK did not abandon armed struggle in 1999; it called a ceasefire. Each of those is significantly different from the other.<BR/><BR/>As for a "return to violence in June 2004 was taken despite the opposition of many PKK field commanders . . . etc.," how does Jenkins know this? What's his source? The Ankara regime? Because I know something of what went on at Qendil at the time, do you? Tell me what happened to the "opposition". If Jenkins has good information, why isn't he naming any of the "opposition"?<BR/><BR/>Who gains? Put it another way: Who stands to lose nothing? What did the Ankara regime do during the 5-year unilateral ceasefire to repair the destruction it caused during the Dirty War? Nothing. What did it intend to repair? Nothing. It's documented by KHRP and HRW how villagers cannot return to their villages to rebuild because of the threats and intimidation of the regime's security forces. So they live in total poverty in places like Amed. What's the unemployment rate there?<BR/><BR/>If anyone had been following the situation since the Amed uprising, they would have known then that we were returning to the 1990s. That was when the liberal AKP gave it's blessing to the murder of Kurdish women, children, and elderly and actually carried out the murders. That was when the liberal AKP detained and tortured hundreds of children in adult prisons in Amed alone. That was when laws started to change so that shooting to kill demonstrators who had covered their faces became the order of the day.<BR/><BR/>Of course, all of that followed the killing of gerilas by the regimes use of chemical weapons, to be followed this summer by the use of cluster bombs against Kurdish civilians in South Kurdistan.<BR/><BR/>Then we had the rejection of Gül by the Paşas, followed by elections, followed by Gül's presidency, followed by Gül's visit to the military in The Southeast. AFTER the liberal AKP's Abdullah Gül returned from his visit to the military installations in The Southeast, THEN TSK operations increased in intensity and people wonder WHY HPG and YJA-STAR fight back?<BR/><BR/>I didn't mention Şemdinli, which made Büyükanıt smile because his "iyi çocuklar" were the perpetrators and I didn't mention PKK's offer of a democratic, political solution, in full compliance with EU accession criteria, which the Ankara regime rejected in August 2006. I didn't mention the ceasefire of 1 October 2006, which the Ankara regime and Lockheed Martin rejected last year . . . or the fact that a reiteration of that ceasefire has been rejected again by the liberal AKP regime, even though the same liberal AKP regime claims it wants to use diplomatic measures to solve the problem.<BR/><BR/>And what is the liberal AKP regime doing to the handful of Kurdish parliamentarians, by the way? That's another little point for everyone to research.<BR/><BR/>That brings us to the problem itself. What is it? It is the severe repression and brutality meted out to the Kurdish population of Turkish-occupied Kurdistan. This brutality has been carried out by the Ankara regime since 1923. Military solutions have been applied since 1923 and they have never worked. PKK has offered a political solution, the only kind of solution that will work and no one is taking it up even though everyone is talking about the need for political solution. There's the hypocrisy of the matter, right there.<BR/><BR/>Don't worry about the captured troops, although you probably won't see them until next spring. They'll be spending the winter with the gerilas, living with the gerilas, living like the gerilas, under the same conditions. If these captured get a cold, or a headache, or a hangnail, they'll be treated by HPG medics in HPG medical facilities. They won't be tortured or abused . . . I mean, that's the American way and the Turkish way . . . the NATO way, right?<BR/><BR/>Now we're back to Andrew Lee Butters' piece and its accuracy. It is the points that he brings up that all point to the context of the situation, the thing that is totally lacking in 99.99% of all Western commentary, so-called analysis, or opinion purposely refuses to include. It is a purposeful refusal to see the situation through the eyes of Kurds in Turkey. It is a purposeful refusal to see the Kurds in Turkey as human beings.<BR/><BR/>I lost all patience for this purposeful refusal a long time ago.Mizgînhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01850990661771197094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-16442295290696450832007-10-25T14:41:00.000-07:002007-10-25T14:41:00.000-07:00anonBasically up until the recent outburst of PKK ...anon<BR/>Basically up until the recent outburst of PKK activity I would have concurred with the articles analyses, the writers says one interesting thing when he wrote that, "The decision to return to violence in June 2004 was taken despite the opposition of many PKK field commanders, who argued that the organization was too weak militarily, lacked a state sponsor"<BR/><BR/>The purpose of my piece for Organized Rage was to raise the question whether a section of the PKK in Iraq has found a new State sponsor. <BR/><BR/>You see in politics it is always wise to ask who gains; and for the life of me in the long run I cannot see how the militants of the PKK or the Kurdish people who live in Turkey can gain from these recent events. Perhaps I am missing something, time will tell. <BR/><BR/>With the election to the Turkish Assembly of members of the DTP at the last general election and the more liberal stance being taken by the AK Party government in Ankara, things seemed to be looking up, then all this occured and one could almost see the smile on Yasar Buyukanit face.<BR/><BR/>MickOrganized Rage.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07627288401631451362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-20091387815015781712007-10-25T12:00:00.000-07:002007-10-25T12:00:00.000-07:00What do you think of this? http://www.atimes.com/a...What do you think of this? http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/IJ26Ak05.html<BR/>Maybe you haven't read it yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-72268545899697353082007-10-25T07:30:00.000-07:002007-10-25T07:30:00.000-07:00Mick, check item #3 in Andrew Lee Butters' list.Mick, check item #3 in Andrew Lee Butters' list.Mizgînhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01850990661771197094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-83701129295567411832007-10-25T05:43:00.000-07:002007-10-25T05:43:00.000-07:00RatsiAs one of those stupid westerners who have wr...Ratsi<BR/><BR/>As one of those stupid westerners who have written about the PKK-Turkish army conflict in northern Iraq, instead of hearing about some Dutchman and his girlfriend from you, what I would like to hear about is just why the PKK have gone on the military offense at this time.<BR/><BR/>True there has been a military conflict for years but undoubtedly in the last few months the PKK has upped the anti, especially across the Iraq-Turkey border. What is the reasoning behind thus, what is the PKK hoping to achieve by this.<BR/><BR/>Mick/Organized Rage<BR/>http://organizedrage.blogspot.com/Organized Rage.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07627288401631451362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-21100580639049082982007-10-24T19:20:00.000-07:002007-10-24T19:20:00.000-07:00Glafkos, you got it. I guess he's no different th...Glafkos, you got it. I guess he's no different than Joost Lagendijk in that regard. I find it very disturbing, to say the least, that one could overlook the vast human rights atrocities committed against the Kurdish people, and not only since the 1980 coup.<BR/><BR/>But just looking back to that coup, a person would have to be totally brainwashed in order NOT to see the context for the rise of PKK and legitimate Kurdish resistance.<BR/><BR/>Thanks Renegade. I posted something in response on your blog. As I mentioned there, I don't have a problem with the Weston article as a whole and in theory, it's just that we've been there and done that so I thought I'd throw in that little piece of history.Mizgînhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01850990661771197094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-11068663820324233992007-10-24T14:03:00.000-07:002007-10-24T14:03:00.000-07:00Thank you for visiting my blog.It is not easily av...Thank you for visiting my blog.<BR/><BR/>It is not easily available here in the US, some of your information.<BR/><BR/>I'm not writing from home, and I didn't digest your comments yet.<BR/><BR/>I'm going to link to your blog.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-81303177566205679252007-10-24T13:54:00.000-07:002007-10-24T13:54:00.000-07:00Nevermind I searched myself and found this: http:/...Nevermind I searched myself and found this: <A HREF="http://mvdg.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/terrorists-strike-in-izmir-turkey/" REL="nofollow">http://mvdg.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/terrorists-strike-in-izmir-turkey/</A><BR/><BR/>I want to know what stupid Westerners married to Turks think when they choose to abandon their own values and adopt the evil Kemalist fascism.Nikephoroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17305429343777161682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-66663861955900383832007-10-24T13:19:00.000-07:002007-10-24T13:19:00.000-07:00Is the Dutch blogger you refer to with the Turkish...Is the Dutch blogger you refer to with the Turkish girlfriend, that idiot Michael Van Der Galiën? <BR/><BR/>If it is him where does he mention this?Nikephoroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17305429343777161682noreply@blogger.com