tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post4959460495287850492..comments2024-01-23T11:00:45.457-08:00Comments on Rastî: PJAK: WE WILL FIGHT TSK FROM NOW ONMizgînhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01850990661771197094noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-34114060952482822382009-01-13T18:40:00.000-08:002009-01-13T18:40:00.000-08:00And you're a sign of stupidity Sancak. If you...And you're a sign of stupidity Sancak. If you would have looked carefully in the columns on the right, you would have found the definition of fascism so that whenever I refer to fascism, everyone can see exactly what I mean.<BR/><BR/>But since you clearly don't have the brains to figure that out, here it is:<BR/><BR/>http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=library&page=britt_23_2<BR/><BR/>Nobody fits the characteristics of fascism as well as the Ankara regime.<BR/><BR/>Jackass.Mizgînhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01850990661771197094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-24337243956386733442009-01-13T15:07:00.000-08:002009-01-13T15:07:00.000-08:00I love your gerilla schooling dialect ! Facist is ...I love your gerilla schooling dialect ! Facist is the first word you guys learn in the qandil terrorist basic school right ? <BR/><BR/>Pathetic rats, lets gooo, toe to toe ! sign of weakness if you ask me !Sancak Beyi Emrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09614183754516730213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-65668938652018582092008-10-09T20:01:00.000-07:002008-10-09T20:01:00.000-07:00No, Mazlum, they are not exactly the same. If you...No, Mazlum, they are not exactly the same. If you really knew what you were talking about, if you really knew anything from inside, you wouldn't make such a ridiculous claim.Mizgînhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01850990661771197094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-21131982758703741162008-10-06T03:37:00.000-07:002008-10-06T03:37:00.000-07:00HPG & HRK is exactly the same. This means PKK ...HPG & HRK is exactly the same. This means PKK is going to focus more on the TSK and the pasa's. Instead of attacking the mullahs in Iran.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-28832497917989051702008-10-05T23:35:00.000-07:002008-10-05T23:35:00.000-07:00"About a third of the Turks are fascists or suppor..."About a third of the Turks are fascists or supporters of fascism, the other two-thirds are pan-Islamists who are even a greater enemy because they've been successful in assimilating millions of Kurds into Turkish culture. The time is now. Launch an all out attack."<BR/><BR/>me and my entire social circle in Turkey does not fit any of this segmented description. Anonymous, if you don't mind me asking: how old are you?Turkish E.T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02490308739434321119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-68185606508673833742008-10-05T23:33:00.000-07:002008-10-05T23:33:00.000-07:00"Everyone knows that the Turks will never give mea..."Everyone knows that the Turks will never give meaningful autonomy to the Kurds."<BR/><BR/>what do you mean? Turkish republic is a democracy good or bad. and in democracies change is the only way forward. Turkish democracy is going forward, regardless of attacks by mountain bandits.<BR/><BR/>Proof of this is everywhere in recent years can't you see any of it?Turkish E.T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02490308739434321119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-79113123931873229392008-10-05T23:30:00.000-07:002008-10-05T23:30:00.000-07:00Anonymous:"...need to cooperate to liberate territ...Anonymous:<BR/>"...need to cooperate to liberate territory...that the Turks would be terrified to enter."<BR/><BR/>how much of todays officially established and internationally accepted without exception: Turkey does this area cover?<BR/><BR/>are you going to be happy about establishing an area that -Turks- are terrified to enter? that's the goal?Turkish E.T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02490308739434321119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-55904514955079331972008-10-05T20:40:00.000-07:002008-10-05T20:40:00.000-07:00I haven't been able to see anything at Ozgur Gunde...I haven't been able to see anything at Ozgur Gundem today because the site seems to be down. Or it may be that it has a ton of visitors.<BR/><BR/>I posted the ANF article that includes HPG's statement, the same one that's on the Turkish page of HPG Online. Turkish media in general is having cows and last night I and a friend were wondering when the media was going to launch the first attack about accountability for this fiasco--and believe me, this is a huge fiasco from TSK's viewpoint. Then this morning we saw that Ahmet Altan was the first to launch the media attack. Hopefully, it will spread from there.<BR/><BR/>I would like to see a feeding frenzy like the one in Feb/Mar when Deniz Baykal--of all people--attacked the pashas for the land invasion fiasco. Everyone else got in on the attack, too. The whole thing was absolutely amazing to me.<BR/><BR/>I guess the garrison in this attack must be completely destroyed and that's why they're going to move it some 300m away. It also may be why they're going to close other garrisons, but I have not seen any mention of which areas contain the five.<BR/><BR/>We did see an NTV interview with a journalist who had been present at the Genelkurmay's press briefing today and that's where we heard that there were 350 guerrillas involved in the fight. However, I don't think the pashas know what they're talking about, and they've just pulled this number out of their asses--from where most of everything else comes. I mean if they were conducting air strikes against their own positions, then they're pretty effing incompetent. Nor do I expect that HPG will release the number of guerrillas who took part in the operation because this is information that should be considered a matter of operational security.<BR/><BR/>I have also seen news in Turkish media that says there are two TSKers "missing" and that a rescue operation is underway for them. Again, who knows whether or not this is true because this info probably came from the pashas and they are not the most reliable sources.<BR/><BR/>Hasan Igsiz is the pasha who seems to be doing all the talking for Basbug, and there were some items in English media in which Igsiz was blaming the KRG for the attacks and that KRG was not stopping PKK, blah, blah, blah. Okay, well, there's a lot of stuff that can be blamed on KRG but this, in my opinion, is not one of them. If old Hasan Pasha wants, why doesn't he take NATO's second largest army to Qendil and do away with PKK himself? The fact is that he knows very well, as does KRG, as does the US, as does everyone, that they can't get fight PKK on its home turf and hope to win. TSK has invaded the South how many times? How many times did they reach success? Even the pesmerge admit they can't get PKK out of the mountains and they don't want to have to fight them again because they know what kind of effort it will mean, with very little return on the investment.<BR/><BR/>No. this is another little distraction that Hasan Pasha has pulled out of his ass to cover up the fact that TSK just isn't all it's made up in the media to be. Training is shit. For all the money that the US taxpayers forks over to Turkey to subsidize TSK's armaments, it doesn't look like it does any good. There were problems with a lack of weapons in the Daglica operation last October, but that was all hushed up by the bumbling incompetents who run TSK. My money says that in Bezele the Sequel, there weren't enough available weapons either. Not that it matters much because TSKers aren't trained very well to use weapons.<BR/><BR/>The only answer is PKK's democratic resolution to the Kurdish question and this is what the pashas resist. Not that it costs them anything to resist. It's not them or their kids dying for nothing in the mountains.Mizgînhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01850990661771197094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-80135908210192572782008-10-05T11:22:00.000-07:002008-10-05T11:22:00.000-07:00All Kurdish forces in the region need to work on e...All Kurdish forces in the region need to work on establishing a de facto state in northern Kurdistan--something along the lines of what the Tamil Tigers did in Sri Lanka. Yes, the Tamils are now almost defeated, but Tamils only represent 5% of the Sri Lankan population as opposed to the Kurds who are at least 20% of the Anatolian population. So KongraGel, PJAK, anyone and everyone else need to cooperate to liberate territory. That's not to say they should sit around like idiots and wait to get bombed by the Turks. But they do need to establish significant areas of influence that the Turks would be terrified to enter. <BR/><BR/>Some good news on this same front: Turkey is closing five border posts out of fear that they will be destroyed. This proves that these large-scale confrontations are scaring the Turks.<BR/><BR/>This is a zero-sum game. Everyone knows that the Turks will never give meaningful autonomy to the Kurds. Turkey is a unity state, pure and simple. About a third of the Turks are fascists or supporters of fascism, the other two-thirds are pan-Islamists who are even a greater enemy because they've been successful in assimilating millions of Kurds into Turkish culture. The time is now. Launch an all out attack.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-25723399452030469192008-10-05T10:07:00.000-07:002008-10-05T10:07:00.000-07:00what did the 350 Pkk fighters want? I still don't ...what did the 350 Pkk fighters want? I still don't understand what they want with these attacks? are they raising an awareness on some civil issue about kurds in Turkey or something?Turkish E.T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02490308739434321119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-11385283420113960992008-10-05T04:55:00.000-07:002008-10-05T04:55:00.000-07:00@Gordon Taylor: As far as i know the battle yester...@Gordon Taylor: As far as i know the battle yesterday was really big.Up to 350 PKK fighters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-59730222729364971992008-10-05T01:07:00.000-07:002008-10-05T01:07:00.000-07:00I'm interested in this too. The Besele karakol bat...I'm interested in this too. The Besele karakol battle (2nd edition) must have been huge, if Erdogan canceled a trip abroad because of it. I hope Mizgin will report on it.<BR/><BR/>Also, there was a long article at gundemonline about a big meeting (50,000 people, they said) at a festival in Hasankeyf. Ahmet Turk spoke, among others. Any news about that?? (BTW, when is the decision about DTP expected?)Gordon Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03653661471478630086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-52840893268226477622008-10-04T09:44:00.000-07:002008-10-04T09:44:00.000-07:00Its probably more then just 15 soldiers.Remember w...Its probably more then just 15 soldiers.Remember when pkk guerillas attacked the same head quarter back in may?The turkish media said they had only 2 dead soldiers.But according to the HPG (And these are the guys i believe more^^) it was 30 dead soldiers.<BR/><BR/>Lets wait until HPG gives some informations about this attack.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-38630577301129839132008-10-04T05:56:00.000-07:002008-10-04T05:56:00.000-07:00Turks can't even hide their death soldiers anymore...Turks can't even hide their death soldiers anymore. According to fascist turkish media that HPG gerillas ambushed army head quarters in Besele and killed at least 15 turk commandos, 20 wounded and possibly captured 2 turk commandos. I can not even begin to imagine HPG's power with the joined attacks against the turk forces by the HRK gerillas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com