tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post6437207446303999196..comments2024-01-23T11:00:45.457-08:00Comments on Rastî: MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!Mizgînhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01850990661771197094noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-65562908732729066752007-12-19T10:12:00.000-08:002007-12-19T10:12:00.000-08:00Anyone got a Google earth location on the site?Typ...Anyone got a Google earth location on the site?<BR/><BR/>Typically, in mountain areas, the 'villages' tend to be located on the valley floor. And typically, if you are preparing military positions to fight on an invading army, you want to be up on the slopes.<BR/><BR/>Most likely, the guerrillas were up in the hills in caves and emplacements watching the destruction of the village below them. Wouldn't be surprised if when the villagers were running for their lives from the explosions that they ran to the caves the guerrillas were in for cover.Samsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03469911674000719477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-25338878639194837972007-12-18T16:33:00.000-08:002007-12-18T16:33:00.000-08:00Your logic is fallacious, Serbest. How far was th...Your logic is fallacious, Serbest. How far was the cave from the village? The cave can be used by anyone near enough to get to it . . . in the dark, on foot. That doesn't mean that gerilas are in the village or even close enough to justify bombing the village, which is what DeeplySaddened mentions.<BR/><BR/>And let me tell you something, if not for the gerilas in the area during the summer, there would have been NO ONE to warn the villagers about the cluster bombs that were dropped in the area by TSK.<BR/><BR/>But, hey, no one gave a damn about TSK's use of cluster munitions. I suppose if South Kurdistan were Lebanon and those employing cluster munitions were Israelis, then we'd never hear the end of it, would we? Same thing with the use of Turkish F-16s.<BR/><BR/>I guess you missed the part about American AWACS flying with Turkish F-16s. So guess who was picking out the targets and giving them to the Turks?<BR/><BR/>Then we have the fact that KCK offered a democratic resolution in August 2006 and a ceasefire in October 2006. KCK reiterated the points of the democratic resolution just a few weeks ago. So who is holding out the olive branch here and who is chopping away at it?<BR/><BR/>Who encouraged KCK to call for a democratic resolution and a ceasefire? Again, you don't hear those filthy hypocrites pressing for those issues in the media anywhere, do you? But the same filthy hypocrites turn right around and make statements in the media praising AKP for being so civilized, even as they call our gerilas "terrorists."<BR/><BR/>DeeplySaddened is absolutely correct: the greater power has the greater responsibility for moral judgement.<BR/><BR/>Of course, expecting ANY sense of moral judgement from either Turkey or the US would be WILDLY optimistic.Mizgînhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01850990661771197094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-6172200252078822422007-12-18T15:08:00.000-08:002007-12-18T15:08:00.000-08:00Wait a minute--so you are saying that because some...Wait a minute--so you are saying that because some civilians were in a cave that also had PKK members in it it is OKAY continue bombing civilians? Does that mean then that if I am walking by someone who is an insurgent it is okay to shoot me too? <BR/><BR/>And, does that mean if I buy a book on Kurdistan then I'm obviously a PKK member so I should go to jail?<BR/><BR/>That's like what the Americans were saying years ago---if I read the Qoran then obviously I was an Islamic terrorist... Has the world come no further in the past 10 years that we still automatically assume guilt by geographic/cultural association?<BR/><BR/>If it is okay to target civilians because the are "near" a terrorist, that makes the military no better than the terrorists who claim their real targets are military and its the civilians who become collateral damage. So, who are the real terrorists? Shouldn't the greater power also have the greater responsibility for moral judgement?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-2842546668727133182007-12-18T10:52:00.000-08:002007-12-18T10:52:00.000-08:00If the Turkish military really wanted to kill as m...If the Turkish military really wanted to kill as much civilians as possible, there would be a lot more casualties. But they don't want that, because there is a lot of international press in Kurdistan. <BR/><BR/>"The PKK positions are still intact," she said. "We even had some PKK fighters with us in the cave, in addition to women, children."<BR/><BR/>This indicates that the PKK-fighters were near these civilians.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com