tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post790255881330230076..comments2024-01-23T11:00:45.457-08:00Comments on Rastî: THE FALCONS OF KURDISTANMizgînhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01850990661771197094noreply@blogger.comBlogger89125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-11850800341559264642010-09-15T15:19:42.090-07:002010-09-15T15:19:42.090-07:00Karayılan has power to explode bombs and kills peo...Karayılan has power to explode bombs and kills people.<br /><br />Fame and power. Once you get these you stick to them until you loose. Karayılan is a dangerous person because peace will not bring him any more power and he will hate to loose his fame among the gullible like you.<br />I'm sure you'll joyfully celebrate the chaos that he brings but to me its just murder.Turkish E.T.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-63539285630024208742010-09-14T20:15:01.726-07:002010-09-14T20:15:01.726-07:00Hey ET, Karayilan is a hero to me.
You come here...Hey ET, Karayilan is a hero to me. <br /><br />You come here reasoning about practicality of the percentages? You REALLY have the guts to decide what will bring "chaos"? Who the hell are you to decide who can and cannot represent themselves? Do you ever notice how much you sound like a Kemalist or any other fascist? <br /><br />BerfoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-66607427740587148102010-09-13T12:36:00.714-07:002010-09-13T12:36:00.714-07:00now you answer this: Who is Karayılan to you and o...now you answer this: Who is Karayılan to you and other Kurds?Turkish E.T.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-9406750984489828672010-09-13T12:34:10.613-07:002010-09-13T12:34:10.613-07:00"Is it not anti-democratic when they go aroun..."Is it not anti-democratic when they go around and give people services just to win votes? "<br /><br />no. its not antidemocratic. i wouldnt say its ethical. but tell me one thing politicians dont do to gain votes? they dont give services they give laundry machines? I say a laundry machine is better than a dry lie...<br /><br />it is foolish for you to think that people who receive a laundry machine do not vote with their hearts. That is one thing AKP knows well, that the peaple of Turkey are not the idiots that they were anymore. That is how they came to power in the first place; a reaction of the public to being fooled for so much for so many years, that is how they will stay in power, and that is why they received "Yes"majority in the referandum.<br /><br />Let me tell you what AKP has done good for the Kurds:<br />They are the first to publicly recognize them as they are: An ethnic minority (that is even too big to be a minority) that speaks a different language, has a taste of its own as a culture whether it be music or art and has an distinct history.<br /><br />Let me tell you what they have done wrong:<br />they failed to communicate this fact properly to your average sunni muslim kemalist Turk who grew up, educated, lived without even realizing this simple thought to this day.<br /><br />and for, this they are being punished by impatient kurds like you as well as the kemalists. You are not much different than the kemalists, you fail to see that even the closest alternative to AKP is 100 times worse than how AKP is, and even without this fact, that AKP, and only AKP actually recognizes the #1 problem of Turkey is the kurdish issue and are doing their best. Your childish patience, your seek for senseless revenge, can ruin everything.Turkish E.T.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-45606138963204637542010-09-11T03:38:55.604-07:002010-09-11T03:38:55.604-07:00Really, it does not fit you acting all democratic ...Really, it does not fit you acting all democratic when you can not even take distance to these clear violations on democracy and denial of the truthAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-21780232498590780982010-09-10T02:19:23.518-07:002010-09-10T02:19:23.518-07:00Tell me one right thing AKP has done to the Kurdis...Tell me one right thing AKP has done to the Kurdish people. Then tell me one wrong thing they have done to the Kurdish people. Then we can talk.<br /><br />Is it not anti-democratic when they go around and give people services just to win votes? Why not let the poor Kurds vote with their hearts and what they actually think is right rather than getting blackmailed by coal, pasta and washing machines. If you can not see the anti-democratic means in this case, you are surely a lost soul and deserves not another reply from me or anyone else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-15953831713253254342010-09-03T15:18:27.006-07:002010-09-03T15:18:27.006-07:00"AKP's means have already been exposed&qu..."AKP's means have already been exposed"<br /><br />what has been exposed?!<br /><br />that sentence doesnt even make sense. What means? what exactly is "anti-democratic" ?<br /><br />democracy is tyranny of the majority, whats antidemocracy? tyranny of 1? dictatorship?<br /><br />"danger that AKP composes towards the freedom of our people"<br /><br />you mean the other majority parties in the turkish parliement dont compose this danger??? or they just compose it less so that you dont find worth mentioning their name?<br /><br />god. this senseless discontent is bothering me. nothing is perfect. many things arent right. but this doesnt mean positive change is not in place. things are changing for the better and if you are hopeless you ruin your life. <br /><br />we should define a line between pessimism and hopelessness. I am sometimes a pessimist, and yet Im ready to do the right thing. <br /><br />you are all hopeless. and you are all dangerous. because you dont believe any right thing can be done or is being done by anybody. that is whats dangerous.Turkish E.T.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-24009944568193185022010-08-30T07:19:24.059-07:002010-08-30T07:19:24.059-07:00ET@
Your beloved Erdogans and AKP's anti-demo...ET@<br /><br />Your beloved Erdogans and AKP's anti-democratic means have already been exposed and pretty much every Kurd east from Sivas knows this. Of course there are those who look through fingers and are better off with AKP's services and beyaz esye, and then there are honourable Kurds who see the danger that AKP composes towards the freedom of our people. What are you still yapping about, I do not know.<br /><br />But heeeey, let us all be happy and sing happy hippie songs since Turkish streets are not so filled with guns as the Brazilian streets ( which is also wrong )Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-77461386674862184492010-08-29T23:35:07.895-07:002010-08-29T23:35:07.895-07:00all I was trying to say is that once terror is res...all I was trying to say is that once terror is resolved there is no serious issue to face in Turkey.<br /><br />and also since even human rights organization has deemed 10% as -not a violation- of human rights it is not necessary.<br /><br />You are completely bullshitting and relying on fantasy. First of all how much would 10% need to be lowered to? 7% as is in some countries? 5%? or do you want the Turkish parliament to be crowded with 20-30 parties and let chaos rule?<br /><br />Only one additional party has a chance of entering the parliament if the 10% was lowered to 5%. Democratic Party (DP) . Why do you want DP to enter to much with merely 5.4% vote?<br /><br />or is there a reason you want independents in there with 5.24% ?<br /><br />or let me guess, you really would love to see Cem Uzan in there with his 3% right???<br /><br />you are out of your mind and you dont why you want what you want.Turkish E.T.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-17638434378822912732010-08-29T17:36:57.822-07:002010-08-29T17:36:57.822-07:00ET "In Turkey the only people with guns are t...ET "In Turkey the only people with guns are the PKK and the army thank god."<br /><br />And your deep state branches and the rest of the serseri.<br /><br />You have the guts to come here and give examples of states in much worse situations? Piss off, man. Classical Turkish bullshit when it comes to their injustice. But look there is this country. Why should we care about Brazil? We have a problem with your fracked up state, not with Brazil. If we cared what the hell Brazil does we wouldn't be having these issues with your irk, would we? <br /><br />Your beloved big agabey is at it again. Shit flows out of his mouth, yet AGAIN. Yes, I am pessimist and boring because I won't buy into your bullshit or trust you. You know why? Because I believe in friendship of peoples should NOT be on the terms set by the oppressing side. So, I will continue being negative and boring until the day comes.<br /><br />You are coming here and telling us that the country is not ready for reducing the 10%? You know, that's a classical BS all the fascists (MHP loves that shit too) always say. The country isn't ready for this and that. Who the hell are you to decide in the expense of Kurdish people? If Turkey can't handle reducing the 10% shit then you know what a sensible person should say? Inceldigi yerden kopsun. Perhaps Turkey doesn't deserve to exist anymore. <br /><br />You don't get it, like many Turks like you, however "democrat" they may be. We don't want your petty advice and we are not interested in being brothers. You don't want to help? Fine, get out of the way. <br /><br />BerfoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-87756425516195479332010-08-28T06:31:55.821-07:002010-08-28T06:31:55.821-07:00Bah, I feel like going in circles with you. You ke...Bah, I feel like going in circles with you. You keep mentioning all other countries has done this and that and come up with lose cliches about demoracy. Listen, I never expected AKP to solve anything, but they could at least have changed a bit from the past governments and not round up politicians and keep oppressing the minorities like never before. They could have lied without being brutal.<br /><br />And yes, I am not lying, that is a policy that AKP is going with. Givings services in exchange for votes. It is not so perfect and pink as you think. And I love how you neglect the other non-democratic methods your AKP is campaigning with. But oh well, neglection is a part of your identity I suppose.<br /><br />Your ignorance is incredible. No one else in Turkey has guns? Dude, everyone in Turkey has guns + the village guards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-66515347354036077192010-08-18T08:29:50.928-07:002010-08-18T08:29:50.928-07:00Anonymous: "3) In my village in Konya in Turk...Anonymous: "3) In my village in Konya in Turkey the mukhtar is given special priviligies and services if he makes sure that the villagers vote for AKP" <br /><br />all voting is done anonymously. This cannot be a policy. <br /><br />If you have "have lost total faith and credibility in both AKP and Erdogan and the initiative" you will be proven wrong in about 2 years... Just wait 2 years. In 2 years I will watch you come back here and declare loudly, that you were indeed wrong, that AKP indeed gave Kurds all that they deserved. You just cannot follow the detailed steps that are required to solve this riddle, this knot. You think just pulling the ropes would be enough. <br /><br />Anonymous, . "Turkum dogruyum caliskanim" , every nation has such statements. Turk in this case was thought of an upper identity I believe. Such as that of americans. I mean there had to be one word to define you and me in unity and that happened to be Turk. Shit that happened between turks and kurds sort of made it impossible to be treated the same way as "American" not, but alas, I wouldnt mind removal or to find a new word.<br /><br />Berfo, your pessimist ramblings are boring. Nobody is talking about a "Buyuk Agabey", the election system will be revamped soon I guess but I dont know how soon. The current handful opposition already mixes up things, the dynamics would change in a way that the country cannot handle currently. NOT NOW. Same with the immunity, same with everything else, first the constitution, than the judicial system, then security and enforcement of law, the economics, and then will come a way to secure the system with the removal of immunity and introduction of a multi party parliment.<br /><br />Again, there are countries in state that is much worse than Turkey in the world. I mean think about Brazil, chaos and crime on the streets is part of daily life. Corruption of the government there is at a stage that is just not solvable. In Turkey the only people with guns are the PKK and the army thank god. The only problem Turkey has seems to be the Kurdish issue right now and by now everyone that wants good living in Turkey, is aware that it must be solved. So I give it 2 years.Turkish E.T.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-11107830689456188422010-08-18T08:29:22.764-07:002010-08-18T08:29:22.764-07:00"It was done to the Armenians, Greeks etc. Bu..."It was done to the Armenians, Greeks etc. But never, I repeat, never was it done to the Turk. "<br /> <br />ha.ha.ha. anonymous, welcome to democracy brother! The tyranny of the majority! go read! it has been this way since the greeks, since the romans!<br /><br />the trick is to balance the tyranny, and give voice and power to the minority so all are equal. when all is not equal of course the sunni muslim atatürkist heterosexual male Turk will be the dominant one.<br /><br />"modern day Turk resembles the old day Nazi." no it does not. again, tyranny of the majority.<br /><br /><br />"It seems Kurdish prime minister is like all the other prime ministers. On new years eve, Turks again are killed in brutal ways. The Turks' main party gets closed. Turkish politicians get rounded up. The Turkish initiative changes"<br /><br />Again anonymous, do you know why? BECAUSE of the judicial democracy that we live in. A "prime minister" is not "a dictator" is not "a tyrant" he is just a prime minister. He can push things, laws, policies, change but he cant create them. This is democracy! Things happen slowly! Because of the principles of seperation of powers. Law, constitution, the police, the government are all seperate entities that need to cooperate. Even the main opposition needs to cooperate. <br /><br />Prime minister promises. Gathers a team to analyze the problem and act. The solution involves 1-giving more rights through legislative means 2- educating the task force on treatment of civilians, giving them more means of control, giving them a better pay? 3- make sure that the constition allows for the giving of more rights if not modify the parts such as the closure of political parties 4- cooperate with the army to ensure that it acts only in legitimate ways and many many more steps.<br /><br /><br />You are just like a kid acting as if just because AKP and Erdoğan promised stuff they will happen with the snap of a finger! Democracy unfortunately runs slower, because there are counter forces, there is the army, there are racist groups that can get a gun and kill anyone on the street, the police force is not educated and are indeed traditionally tightly integrated with army and also dark forces. All have to be taken care of for there to be an absolute reform! It needs time!Turkish E.T.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-62205694608472464222010-08-11T05:56:16.240-07:002010-08-11T05:56:16.240-07:00Turkish ET: "You do realize that DTP is mocki...Turkish ET: "You do realize that DTP is mocking the "Kurdish bill" and opposes the changes in the constition even though both are 100% clearly in the benefit of Kurds, no matter how effective they are, or how much more effective they could have been in optimal scenarious. As they are, they benefit Kurds and DTP opposes them, violently... Is this democracy?"<br /><br />I see your argument and the similar ones too. But let me tell you that this whole situation is not not so different than someone who is captive and chained. All that is being offered is to loosen the tight cuffs a little. Kurds are opposing to the cuffs and don't want anyone to loosen them, they want to break them. If the whole thing was serious just a little bit, the quota for elections would have been changed. Heck, the whole election system should have been revamped. But it's not. Kurds have asked something to work with and that they didn't get.<br /><br />Let me tell you one more thing. it doesn't matter how much of patching is made. Rules and laws in Kurdistan are always bent. Heck laws are bent when it comes to Kurds any time. I am sure you have read what is happening in Serzan Kurt's case. So, it's moot point whether you patch that constitution or not. The first three items of the constitution that cannot be changed gives enough leverage to the Turkish race-based state to do whatever it wants. The same constitution has been patched before you know.<br /><br />Kurds don't want a Buyuk Agabey hand them a few bread crumbs and tell them not to ask questions just trust him. Well, Kurds don't want that and they want to exist with their dignity. So, yes, boycott is the best statement to make. Heck, if it were up to me they would have been boycotting the education system long time ago. <br /><br />Yes BDP politicians make mistakes and yes I am not supportive of some stupid things some of them say at times (like Hasip Kaplan's response to Ertugrul Ozkok). But you can be assured that the serious decisions are being discussed thoroughly. Not everything is at it appears in Turkish media. There is a great deal of politics involved in the whole thing. It comes down to this simple fact. Kurds have no reason to trust the Turkish government. Not after all that has been happening. <br /><br />BerfoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-48265910252394854972010-08-10T16:28:17.541-07:002010-08-10T16:28:17.541-07:00ET "This problem is a political problem cause...ET "This problem is a political problem caused by politics in a very volatile region of earth. It is not a racial problem."<br /><br />I cite these in return.<br /><br />1. "Muhtac oldugun kudret damarlarindaki asil kanda mevcuttur" (the strength you need is in the noble blood flowing through your veins)<br /><br />2. "Kahraman irkima bir gul" (smile at my hero race)<br /><br />3. "Turkum dogruyum caliskanim" (I am a turk, I am true, I am hard worker)<br /><br />It is NOT a race problem? Jackass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-1948303235064169992010-08-10T14:21:26.661-07:002010-08-10T14:21:26.661-07:00But seriously, let us cut the crap already. You wa...But seriously, let us cut the crap already. You want to appear as a democrat. You want AKP to appear as a democratic party. You want the referendum to appear as paving way to a bigger democracy. You want Erdogan to appear democratic.<br /><br />I will tell you some episodes, even some personal ones, that will shut your mouth once and for all.<br /><br />1) AKP tried to win the votes of Kurds in far eastern regions by giving them komur and makarna ( coal and pasta). As Siri Sakik said : '' Mr president, this is not Africa''.<br /><br />2) AKP tried to win the hearts of Tunceli/Dersim inhabitants. Everyone in Turkey knows how important Tunceli is, since the city has the highest rate of educational citizens. In other words, Tunceli is the brain of Turkey. He tried to win the Tuncelis with washing machines and other beyaz esye.<br /><br />3) In my village in Konya in Turkey the mukhtar is given special priviligies and services if he makes sure that the villagers vote for AKP. The mukhtar lives twice as healthy a life as other in my village. He must make sure to give out of the services to those who vote for AKP. And make sure not to give anything to those who vote for other parties, specially BDP. I am sure this does not only happen in my village. We all heard about the sudden increase in weapons, korucus etc. all over the Eastern provinces especially about election time.<br /><br />4) AKP probably also ordered the burnings of the several thousands of votes in Agiri and Istanbul. Just the amount of votes that would make them win the elections in these cities.<br /><br />As a Kurd ( and i am sure i am not alone on this one) i have lost total faith and credibility in both AKP and Erdogan and the initiative. These people whom, with dirty tricks, tries to win the hearts of the Kurdish people, they are not to count on. And then they say things like '' but oh we have so many Kurdish MPS''... Yes, congratulations, how many have ever spoken Kurdish in the parliament? How many have ever openly regarded themselves as Kurdish? How many of them have ever said a word whenever Kurdish chilren got killed, villages and forests burned etc...<br /><br />AKP is the most anti-democratic party Turkey yet has seen. Not even MHP and CHP, when in power, have used such dirty tactics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-61143730663839335832010-08-10T08:03:33.742-07:002010-08-10T08:03:33.742-07:00ET@
You keep using the same rethoric. When I say ...ET@<br /><br />You keep using the same rethoric. When I say there is a problem with the Turk, you say I am a racist. When I say there is a problem with Kurds in Turkey, you say that it is what Turkey is about. You keep mentioning that this was not only done to the Kurds. That is true. It was done to the Armenians, Greeks etc. But never, I repeat, never was it done to the Turk. Never was it done to the Turk that accepted Ataturk. And this is why the modern day Turk resembles the old day Nazi. Seeing him/herself as something that is higher standed than the ''poor, uneducated Kurd that PKK is taking advantage of ( this was what you said, not me, in an earlier post).<br /><br />About the initiative... Are you just plain dumb? Ok, let me draw a scenerio for you. <br /><br />Turks are oppressed in the same fascon as Kurds in a country called Kurdistan. New, Islamic, Kurdish prime minister tells his Turkish ''brothers in Islam'' : Hey brothers, i am here to solve your problems. Every Kurd will gain their right. I will take you seriously. I will do whatever it takes to make you equal citizens again.<br /><br />Kurdish prime minister wins the hearts and votes of the Turks.<br /><br />Kurdish prime minister starts an initiative. He allows the broadcasting of broken Turkish and allows the teaching of Turkish in Istanbul.<br /><br />It seems Kurdish prime minister is like all the other prime ministers. On new years eve, Turks again are killed in brutal ways. The Turks' main party gets closed. Turkish politicians get rounded up. The Turkish initiative changes name to Democratic initiative. A refendum turns up. In reality the referendum does nothing for Turks, not directly at least.<br /><br />Now, as a Turk, how much faith would you have, in the future, for this initiative? Please, just try to see it if it was done to Turks in the same way. BDP is boycotting the referendum. Note that. They are not saying yes, nor are they saying no. They are boycotting it because it is silly and does nothing, directly, to the countrys 20 million Kurds.<br /><br />Besides, when you say that MHP and BDP are losing hope for the initiative then note also that Erdogan never invited or had a meeting with either of the parties, calling them '' fuel for terror''. Rather, it is Erdogan losing hope in BDP ( 5 million Kurds, at least) and MHP ( millions of Turks).<br /><br />As I have said, no Turks ( other than a few) are standing up for the Kurds. This is why the Kurdish initiative never really will become serious. I mean WHO CARES!? The main Kurdish party got max 5 million votes... The rest do not really care. So, as Kurds, we do not really care about what happend in the past. We want this solved, and we want it solved NOW, before the next massacre turns up, before the next civil war turns up, before the Turkish and Kurdish people will forever stay arch enemies ( like the Indians and Pakistanis). Forces inside Turkey and outside Turkey wants to create ethnic barriers that will last forever. PKK is trying to avoid this by saying they do not want to seperate, rather they want to make Turkey democratic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-81979402282162363542010-08-10T07:26:31.434-07:002010-08-10T07:26:31.434-07:00Anonymous. Everything you say are motivative snack...Anonymous. Everything you say are motivative snacks for politic hooligans. They might be true but they dont touch any subject. Yes a lot of Turkish and Kurdish intellectuals, journalists, artists, were jailed during the period of Erdogans "Kurdish initiative". The question is , was it more than the previous periods, when there was no "Kurdish Initiative? NO. It was not more than the previous periods. And the only way to finish something is to start doing it. The Kurdish initiative has merely started, you cant expect a social problem this size to be solved in a year and yet DTP, MHP and every other fool has lost their hope in the initiative within months! What started the initiative is that there is a need for it! Even if there were no action plan 3 years after it has started that would still not make the inititive invalid. Because it is always better than not having an inititive!<br /><br />Yes. Unfortunately Turkish security is not so tough on Turkish nationalists as it is tough on Kurdish demonstrators. But this is also a result of broader problems, it is not a problem, you cant adress this issue before addressing the terrorism, the kurdish rights or any other important aspect of this. <br /><br />Anonymous, I quote from what you wrote:<br /><br />"....We are not even regarded as human beings.... The Turk is a savage. But not like an average savage. You can call the Turk a werewolf savage."<br /><br />Man. Do you see how you treat Turks? Im not even going to explain once again that "who started first" isnt important. You behave just like the ones you accuse. You call a werewolf savage to those you accuse of not treating you as human beings.... Just go away. Again; yıkıl karşımdan. This problem is a political problem caused by politics in a very volatile region of earth. It is not a racial problem. And you are not ready to understand this yet.<br /><br /><br />Berfo I think you got me wrong, I may not think that DTP is the correct representative of Kursd however the reason I asked is because I Was curious on your final opinion. The math dont matter. The average Turk sees its politician as not a representative but a higher person, they think of them as corrupt liars and yet regard them as important people. I wondered if this is the same with Kurds. <br /><br />You do realize that DTP is mocking the "Kurdish bill" and opposes the changes in the constition even though both are 100% clearly in the benefit of Kurds, no matter how effective they are, or how much more effective they could have been in optimal scenarious. As they are, they benefit Kurds and DTP opposes them, violently... Is this democracy?Turkish E.T.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-13088098281807916202010-08-10T05:45:46.396-07:002010-08-10T05:45:46.396-07:00Turkish ET said "Again, I ask you: Do you eve...Turkish ET said "Again, I ask you: Do you even see DTP as a representative of Kurds and kurdish identity?"<br /><br />This bullshit keeps coming up. Yes, because 5 million Kurds feel it does. Who the hell are you to make that judgment? Now let's expose more of that miserable white-turk deception (fethullahci eat that up too) about the number of DTP votes and whether DTP represent Kurds. <br /><br />They say DTP gets ONLY about 5 millions of Kurdish votes. Their reasoning is that there are about 18-20 million Kurds living in Turkey. Fair enough. Now, let's think how many Kurds are eligible to vote. To my knowledge a child below 18 can't vote in Turkey. If we consider majority of the Kurdish population is very young, that probably doesn't even leave but about 8 Million Kurds who can vote. I would also doubt all of those eligible to vote participate in the voting process. 8 Million eligible people and 5 million votes for dtp. Say 4 million. That's already 50% (EASILY). If you take out the korucular (I and most Kurds don't consider those jash as Kurds) the number shoots up high. Let's add to that the cheating the turkish state and government play in elections in Kurdistan. The ratio of Kurds who vote for DTP is therefore over 50%. Show me ONE turkish party that has the same ratio of votes. one.<br /><br />Really, do you still have face value to ask if DTP/BDP represent Kurds? Do you even THINK independently before you speak or you just keep repeating the shit your masters tell you? <br /><br />BerfoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-74478394952594469672010-08-09T19:48:51.546-07:002010-08-09T19:48:51.546-07:00Turkish ET can be easily disproven by single thing...Turkish ET can be easily disproven by single things here. One of them being: The living standard of people living in Diyarbakir as opposed to the living standard of people living in any other major Turkish city.<br /><br />Ferhat Tunc was jailed for having ideas on how to solve the Kurdish issue. Like many others, he was jailed for having an idea of how to solve the issue. I only have one question for TET - How many Turkish intellectuals, journalists, artists etc ( and we both know many have had opinions on Kurdish issue... Hell even whole NGOS have had their road maps on solving Kurdish issue)have been jailed during the period of Erdogans '' Kurdish initiative''?<br /><br />The guy who lynched Ahmet Turk, breaking his nose on open TV, was released with a bill of mereily 4000 Turkish Liras, as far as i remember. Yet a Kurdish kid who throws a stone at a police officer, or a Kurdish girl who walks pass at a demo gets imprisoned in worst conditions for years.<br /><br />When Kurds lynch MHP buildings or AKP buildings, they are met with heavy security forces, heavy beatings, heavy tear gas... Heck even heavy rains of bullets. When Turkish nationalists lynch BDP buildings or DTP buildings the Turkish police are standing there just looking, from time to time you can hear the Turkish police officer telling the Turkish nationalist who is about to smash the office windows and lynch the BDP party sign '' Arkadaslar, sakin ol, lutfen sakin ol''... Only thing they really need is a pleasant seat and some pop corns.<br /><br />Yet, you, you whom pretends to be democratic have the guts to tell us that Kurds are not treated as second rank citizens... HELL, forget about second rank. We are not even regarded as human beings. Ataturk infiltrated the Turk. Ataturk made the Turk turn into a savage. The Turk is a savage. But not like an average savage. You can call the Turk a werewolf savage. Only when someone is about to turn away from the system, turn away from Ataturks system, then the Turk will go savage. When a real Ataturkci Mehmetcik encounters a guerilla body, the first thing that comes to his mind is spitting on the body. But the savagery inside him tells him to rape it, burn it, mutiliate it then behead it. This savage spirit lives inside a majority of Turks. Even you. You might get offended. But do you know how I can see it? Because you can not accept to be defeated. You can not accept that PKK defeated the Turkish state without ever going to war with it. Without ever really raising its hand. PKK defeated the Turkish state, the turkish system, Ataturk and the capitalist-imperialstic system with just raising one single finger. PKK defeated the Turkish system even though the whole world stood behind that system. You are desperately trying to cathegorize PKK as terrorists. But deep inside your heart, you are glad that PKK is PKK and that it never used terror in its way to defeat the system. It never used Talban, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah like methodes to gain its victory. It did it on an almost-french fine way. Not too many casualties, not too many mistakes. PKK is the reason that a human being like you and other Turkish intellectuals can criticize turkish military. PKK is the reason that there is just remotely democratic means in Turkey. Could you imagine doing these things before 1980? Before the creation of PKK? I hardly do believe that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-10776481515556664492010-08-07T12:57:58.939-07:002010-08-07T12:57:58.939-07:00It takes an 8 year old kid to understand that the ...It takes an 8 year old kid to understand that the current system in Turkey is corrupt. <br /><br />However you have to be absolutely crazy to say that the proposed bill is not a major improvement over the current constitution.<br /><br />Mind you, DTP does not oppose the proposed bill because its backwards. DTP opposes the bill merely because the little changes -they- have suggested were not implemented. Everyone agrees that the proposed bill is an improvement and yet DTP acts like your usual opposition and opposes merely to oppose. "scratch and renew" is not the way to go with the propositions. CHANGE is already difficult enough in Turkey. I find it puzzling for you to not see this thing which you are already mentioning. <br /><br />The system is corrupt. Change has to be done. Change can only be done slowly. Otherwise military grenades turn out in slums around Turkey as has happened. Change is in place. <br /><br />The current bill will prevent Ferhat Sarıkaya's from being banned from duty. For me, that itself is a reason it should pass. It must pass!<br /><br />Again, I ask you: Do you even see DTP as a representative of Kurds and kurdish identity?Turkish E.T.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-69514329375154202682010-08-03T16:02:04.819-07:002010-08-03T16:02:04.819-07:00E.T. "However, DTP strangely doesnt support t...E.T. "However, DTP strangely doesnt support the bill that would prevent its closure."<br /><br />This is exactly what people like you don't get. What does the change say? The parliament will vote for closure. Do you REALLY think DTP can escape closure? Unless the 10% crap is removed (to which AKP resists passionately) people like you will keep saying DTP/BDP doesn't represent Kurds. Who the hell does? Erdogan who tells Kurds "those who don't like can leave"? It pisses me off that you guys see the right in yourselves to decide who can and cannot represent Kurdish people. Just back off and let Kurds decide, dammit. Take your freaking police, soldiers, and korucular with you too.<br /><br />"A democratic judicial system unfortunately has the shortcoming that once a process is put into work, it cannot be stopped."<br /><br />You are joking right? A democratic judicial system? REALLY??? Dude, everyone in Turkey knows the judicial system is anything but democratic and judicial. It's only a power mechanism.<br /><br />BerfoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-21590891231109270882010-07-26T00:39:28.086-07:002010-07-26T00:39:28.086-07:00Anonymous. I know there were kurdish uprisings wit...Anonymous. I know there were kurdish uprisings without foreign intervention. And kurdish uprising and the will for kurdish identity is above foreign intervention. However all Im trying to say is that this situation was solved in your favor had Turkey been a country free of foreign influence. <br /><br />The geo-politic situation of Turkey and Kurdistan is far too important to be a Turkish issue only. And no bible-American can give me an advice on these matters with his feeble mind.Turkish E.T.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-18603703441493743922010-07-26T00:36:06.092-07:002010-07-26T00:36:06.092-07:00Berfo go and read what I wrote:
DTP was closed as...Berfo go and read what I wrote:<br /><br />DTP was closed as part of a system. Unlike your anarchic PKK, Turkish government has a system. A democratic judicial system unfortunately has the shortcoming that once a process is put into work, it cannot be stopped.<br /><br />So, DTP's case was put in, and since all the supporting evidence was there, that DTP met with PKK publicly, it was closed. It was closed even though noone with a sane mind in Turkey wanted it to be closed. Thats how turkish democracy is for now, shit happens infront of your eyes without being stopped, like the kids going to jail, or torturers walking free.<br /><br />But it is all changing.<br /><br />However, DTP strangely doesnt support the bill that would prevent its closure.<br /><br />Whats more confusing is that you probably dont even support DTP. I mean you care about them, but you dont see them as representative of Kurds do you? you just care when their party is shut however its not like they do anything effective in the parliement for Kurds?Turkish E.T.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19312979.post-70944847243422063492010-07-25T15:15:59.161-07:002010-07-25T15:15:59.161-07:00Hey TET, you say Hamas is elected. good point. Why...Hey TET, you say Hamas is elected. good point. Why can't you have the same affection for the elected Kurdish officials? over 1444 of them were arrested within less than 12 months. If someone were to act like you, you would name them a racist in a heartbeat. WTF are you then? Cybergladio? :-)<br /><br />BerfoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com